Someone with more historical or anthropological knowledge than I is welcome to correct me, but I'm given to understand that many of those whom we would consider victims of an oppressive social system, actually support the system.

Isn't the main evidence that victims of oppressive social systems want to escape from them at every opportunity? There are reasons for refugees, and reasons that the flows are in consistent directions.

And if anti-suffragism had been truly popular, then having got the vote, women would have immediately voted to take it away again. Does this make sense?

Some other points:

1. CEV is about human values, and human choices, rather than paper-clippers. I doubt we'd get a CEV across wildly-different utility functions in the first place.

2. I'm happy to admit that CEV might not exist in the veil of ignorance case either, but it seems more likely to.

3. I'm getting a few down-votes here. Is the general consensus here that this is too close to politics, and that is a taboo subject (as it is a mind-killer)? Or is the "veil of ignorance" idea not an important part of CEV?