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I would like to see more discussion on the question of how we should distinguish between 1) things we value even at the expense of pleasure, and 2) things we mistakenly alieve are more pleasurable than pleasure.
Surely if there is something I will give up pleasure for, which I do not experience as pleasurable, that's strong evidence that it is an example of 1 and not 2?
Yes, but there are other cases. If you prefer eating a cookie to having the pleasure centers in your brain maximally stimulated, are you sure that's not because eating a cookie sounds on some level like it would be more pleasurable?
I'm not sure how I could ever be sure of such a thing, but it certainly seems implausible to me.