nyan_sandwich comments on Problematic Problems for TDT - Less Wrong

36 Post author: drnickbone 29 May 2012 03:41PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 28 May 2012 04:34:37PM 0 points [-]

CDT eats the donut "just this once" every time and gets fat. TDT says "I shouldn't eat donuts" and does not get fat.

Comment author: wedrifid 28 May 2012 05:03:19PM 5 points [-]

TDT says "I shouldn't eat donuts" and does not get fat.

The deontological agent might say that. The TDT agent just decides "I will not eat this particular donut now" and it so happens that it would also to make decisions not to eat other donuts in similar circumstances.

The use of the term TDT or "timeless" is something that gets massively inflated to mean anything noble sounding. All because there is one class of contrived circumstance in which the difference between CDT and TDT is that TDT will cooperate.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 May 2012 11:15:15AM 2 points [-]

It might not be rigorous, but it's still a good analogy IMO. Akrasia can be seen as you and your future self playing a non-zero-sum game, which in some cases has PD-like payoffs.

Comment author: [deleted] 28 May 2012 05:08:02PM 2 points [-]

The TDT agent just decides "I will not eat this particular donut now" and it so happens that it would also to make decisions not to eat other donuts in similar circumstances.

right. I was being a bit messy with describing the TDT thought process. The point is that TDT considers all donut-decisions as a single decision.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 May 2012 11:15:54AM 6 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 29 May 2012 05:56:26PM 2 points [-]

Or I can just lazily allude to it and then upvote you for linking it.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 May 2012 06:30:23PM 2 points [-]

Yeah, I guessed that you were alluding to it, but I thought that people who hadn't read it wouldn't get the allusion.