Emile comments on Review: Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Emile 28 May 2012 09:52:33PM *  8 points [-]

Maybe the standard good parenting advice is simply wrong. Having a kid who learns the violin is about status. It's not about intelligence.

On the other hand, maybe parents know that, and correctly expect that status will help their child more than intelligence.

Comment author: jsalvatier 29 May 2012 01:39:17AM 5 points [-]

Though you'd think that if that were the case, such effects would show up in income statistics. A better argument is that having a kid who does violin etc gives parents a status boost (this is how I originally interpreted Christian's statement).

Comment author: Emile 29 May 2012 09:23:41AM 2 points [-]

I mostly agree; though there's also the aspect of having your kid associate with the kind of kids who get sent to violin lessons, which is probably a "better" peer group than what you'd get from many other activities.

Comment author: juliawise 29 May 2012 02:45:03AM 3 points [-]

Having a kid who plays violin is more about the parent's status than the kid's. This may help the kid learn to eventually jockey for status as adults. But I have to question how much that improves their quality of life, if that's what we care about.

Comment author: Emile 29 May 2012 08:55:40AM 5 points [-]

I wouldn't say "Jockey for status" as much as "give him tastes and references that make it easier for him to come off as high status / associate with high-status people" (those might be ways of saying the same things, but "jockeying" calls to mind dominance and put-downs).

I expect it would improve their quality of life, all else being equal, but I don't know if Violin lessons would be a good way to improve one's status (probably far from the best one). I agree it's probably mostly about the parent's status, and the kind of kids the peers wants their kid to associate with.