waveman comments on Review: Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_M 29 May 2012 02:40:27AM *  2 points [-]

In the contemporary North America, buying a house definitely looks to me like a raw deal. On the other hand, the popular wisdom is indeed the opposite, i.e. that renting is a raw deal, suitable only for people whose tarnished reputation makes them unable to get credit. (The whole issue could be approached by asking some simple and obvious questions suggested by basic economics, but puzzlingly, nobody seems to be asking them.)

On the whole, however, I definitely have the impression that among the great bulk of people who aspire to live a middle-class lifestyle, home ownership is considered as an essential goal for any serious person, let alone family. A contrarian on this issue is likely to face enormous pressures from friends, family, spouse, etc., and risk coming off as seriously weird. (Maybe I am overestimating this phenomenon in the wider society by extrapolating from my own social circles. But it certainly exists to a significant degree.)

Comment author: waveman 29 May 2012 10:31:18PM *  1 point [-]

It's interesting to see that the common-sense view is now that buying a house is a bad idea. Just a few short years ago anyone questioning the wisdom of buying a house was seen as mentally deficient, if not downright evil.

This just as prices have reverted close to fair value and buying is starting to make a lot of sense compared to renting. [As long as you have the capacity to pay the loan and you are not likely to move soon.]

This I take to be a sign we are close to the bottom in housing.

Comment author: Vladimir_M 30 May 2012 02:24:46AM 4 points [-]

This I take to be a sign we are close to the bottom in housing.

Absent some very extraordinary insider information, there's never any good reason to believe that. At any moment, prices are where they are because they could go either way.