JulianMorrison comments on This Didn't Have To Happen - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JulianMorrison 23 April 2009 08:28:00PM *  10 points [-]

It's like being the guy who checks the Wright brothers' calculations, finds them correct, and still refuses to leap onboard their untried prototype to escape a tiger, but instead prefers to stand and be eaten.

Look, conventional death makes it maximally hard to revive a person. Their information has dissipated. You would essentially need a time machine. Cryonics is a guaranteed improvement over that - at least you have something to work with.

Comment author: thomblake 23 April 2009 08:34:37PM 0 points [-]

It's like being the guy who checks the Wright brothers' calculations, finds them correct,

Perhaps more like the Wright brothers were planning to figure out how to land the plane after they throw it off a cliff. And your example throws out the benefits of not signing up for cryonics, which are a major factor for me.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 23 April 2009 08:45:02PM 0 points [-]

Note that if Wright brothers didn't believe that there was a considerable chance of the plain not crashing, it would be a bad investment to build the plain in the first place. The question is about the cost: does the current state of knowledge support the positive outcome sufficiently to think of designing a plane? To design a plane? To build a plane? To perform an experiment, risking its destruction? To test-pilot a plane, risking one's life?

The same goes for cryonics, here you risk something like 100 bucks a year.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 23 April 2009 08:38:46PM -1 points [-]

So they haven't figured out the landing gear. So you might break your neck, might break your arm - but the tiger is sprinting towards you! It certainly will eat you!

Comment author: thomblake 23 April 2009 09:04:14PM -1 points [-]

I'll take my odds against a tiger rather than a cliff any day. How confident are you that you won't live forever?