Annoyance comments on This Didn't Have To Happen - Less Wrong

22 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 April 2009 07:07PM

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Comment author: Annoyance 24 April 2009 04:12:23PM 0 points [-]

Do you have any particular reason to care what lifestyle choices people here consider 'okay'?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 24 April 2009 06:50:11PM 2 points [-]

Do you have any particular reason to suggest that every attempt to ask anyone else for advice makes the requester a conformist?

Comment author: Annoyance 25 April 2009 04:44:35PM 1 point [-]

Not at all, which is precisely why I haven't done that.

CronoDAS wasn't asking for advice. Depending on how his question is interpreted, he was looking for permission / approval.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 25 April 2009 05:22:52PM 4 points [-]

Depending on how his question is interpreted, he was looking for permission / approval.

Specifically, I expect that he's looking for community validation of the extremely low value he places on his own life.

Which is actually an interesting question, as I (unfortunately) don't think it's defensible to tell someone "No, your life is worth more than you personally value it at".

Comment author: wuwei 07 June 2009 11:56:14PM 1 point [-]

Some people have times when they are suicidally depressed. I think it's quite defensible to tell those people that their life is worth more than they personally value it at.

More generally, I don't see any strong reasons to expect people to be less mistaken about their own life worth than about any other sort of value judgment.

Also, I don't see any case yet for interpreting CronoDAS as doing anything more than simply asking a community that may have some insight into a given field (rationality), whether his reasoning or conclusions check out.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 08 June 2009 12:27:25AM *  1 point [-]

I think it's quite defensible to tell those people that their life is worth more than they personally value it at.

Yes, but valuable to whom? To themselves? That seems contradictory. To others? Sure, but what are you going to do about, tell them they can't do as they please with their life because other people value it more than they do? In some general sense of intrinsic value? That's going to be difficult to define.

Also, I don't see any case yet for interpreting CronoDAS as doing anything more than simply asking a community that may have some insight into a given field (rationality), whether his reasoning or conclusions check out.

This is an old comment so I no longer remember clearly, but he made remarks previously that were strongly indicative of my interpretation. I can possibly dig them up if you really wanted.