D2AEFEA1 comments on When None Dare Urge Restraint, pt. 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: D2AEFEA1 29 May 2012 06:39:38AM 6 points [-]

labeling a death as "heroic" can be a similar sort of rationalization.

Homer, about 2800 years ago :

It is entirely seemly for a young man killed in battle to lie mangled by the bronze spear. In his death all things appear fair.

Comment author: Larks 15 June 2012 08:31:04PM -1 points [-]

Even the fact that he was probably only fighting because he'd been enslaved.

Comment author: Nornagest 15 June 2012 09:23:07PM *  2 points [-]

I don't think this would have been true, at least in that time and place. Warfare in Archaic Greece -- i.e. when Homer was writing -- was dominated by hoplites, expensively equipped heavy infantry drawn from the citizen classes. Later on, peltasts and other light infantry became more common, and were sometimes recruited from unfree classes (especially in Sparta, which fielded large numbers of helot auxiliaries), but also came as mercenaries or from the lower free classes.

Comment author: Unnamed 29 May 2012 04:29:41PM *  14 points [-]

Homer, about 20 years ago:

Homer: That Timmy is a real hero!
Lisa: How do you mean, Dad?
Homer: Well, he fell down a well, and... he can't get out.
Lisa: How does that make him a hero?
Homer: Well, that's more than you did!

Hero inflation is not just for the dead or the military.