wedrifid comments on When None Dare Urge Restraint, pt. 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 30 May 2012 07:51:32PM *  -1 points [-]

That seems to me like something you could contrive to say about any generally-true comparison...

Yes, which is why it's an awesome go to test to apply to generalizations. Death, extinction, torture forever, saving billions of people!

Comment author: handoflixue 31 May 2012 12:50:51AM 0 points [-]

That test is only useful if you're interested in illustrating exceptions to the norm. The graph, I think, does a brilliant job of illustrating normalized expectations.

I would assume that for most generalizations, it either shouldn't be a generalization, or else it's meant to illustrate normalized expectations. So the test seems useless unless you simply need to demonstrate that, duh, generalizations tend to have exceptions.

Comment author: wedrifid 31 May 2012 01:16:41AM -1 points [-]

'Generalizations' is an interesting word in as much as it expresses nearly the opposite meaning depending on the kind of person who speaks it (and to a lesser extent, the context).

Comment author: handoflixue 01 June 2012 06:47:35PM 0 points [-]

Can you expand on what you actually mean by that? I've always taken a generalization to mean "a broad statement that is true for the majority (but not all) specific instances of the group". For instance, one can generalize that humans have 2 arms - this, despite there being a number of exceptions, and the average (mean) values being less than 2.