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Comment author: [deleted] 30 May 2012 02:36:32AM 1 point [-]

I think I will have to study this "status" thing a bit more.

Comment author: shokwave 30 May 2012 05:14:45AM *  5 points [-]

I recommend against it, if you're capable of denying your curiosity here. I don't think I'm better off for having studied it.

Comment author: Dorikka 30 May 2012 06:56:16AM 4 points [-]

Why do you recommend against it?

Comment author: shokwave 30 May 2012 07:45:25AM 4 points [-]

Being aware of status has caused me to either 1. make status-stealing moves more often or 2. be more aware and conscious of making status-stealing movies, with the practical upshot of both being that social interactions have become a little less enjoyable for other people.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 30 May 2012 12:40:06PM 8 points [-]

Well, don't do that then.

Comment author: shokwave 30 May 2012 12:49:50PM 8 points [-]

My kingdom for complete causal control over my actions!

Comment author: RichardKennaway 30 May 2012 01:44:16PM 1 point [-]

That can be an easy excuse for not doing that then.

Comment author: khafra 30 May 2012 12:26:39PM 3 points [-]

How did you study status? My biggest single source of information has been Keith Johnstone's book Impro (although I haven't actually done any improv, too scary), and I started liking social interactions more than before. They feel less confusing and arbitrary; more like a game that can be mutually enjoyable, and in which both participants can "raise their score."

Comment author: shokwave 30 May 2012 12:48:40PM 3 points [-]

They feel less confusing and arbitrary

This hasn't been a problem for me, so my experience doesn't include the benefit of understanding social interaction more. It seems likely that if I had been confused, I'd have recommended learning about status instead of recommending against it.

As for how I studied it: Overcoming Bias posts on the matter, The Office according to The Office, and Robert Greene's The 48 Laws of Power.

Comment author: bogus 30 May 2012 11:10:59PM *  -1 points [-]

The Office according to The Office, and Robert Greene's The 48 Laws of Power.

These only really apply to organized hierarchies, though. When people talk about "status" mattering in human interactions, they mean a combination of perceived power, influence, impressiveness and the like, plus instinctual dominance-submissiveness interactions. Formal hierarchies in a complex organization are a distinct matter, although they do influence status in the former sense.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 30 May 2012 09:17:25AM 2 points [-]

also being depressed about human interaction.