TheOtherDave comments on One possible issue with radically increased lifespan - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobertLumley 31 May 2012 01:42:16PM 5 points [-]

Letting go of the assumption that karma means much above -3 would also go a long way. Karma is just here really to keep trolls away. If there are vast differences in Karma scores posted from around the same time, then maybe that means something. I know personally that the comments and posts I am most proud of are, generally speaking, my least upvoted ones.

To consider an example, this and this were posted around the same time, both to discussion. The former initially received vastly more karma than the second. But the former, while amusing, has virtually no content. The second is a well reasoned, well supported post. Did the former's superior karma mean that it was a better article? Obviously not. That's why the second was promoted and, once it was, eventually overtook the former.

Another obvious example is the sequences. Probably everyone here would agree that at least 75 of the best 100 posts on LW are from the sequences. But, for the most part, they sit at around 10-20 karma. Those that are outside that are the extraordinarily popular ones, which are linked to a lot, and sit at probably around 40 karma. This is not an accurate reflection of their quality versus other articles that I see around 10-40 karma.

I really try (but don't always succeed) to vote karma based on "Is this comment/post at a higher or lower karma score than I think it should have?". If everyone used this, then Karma scores might have some meaning relative to each other. But I don't think many people use this strategy, and the result is that karma scores are skewed towards more read and funnier posts. Which generally tend to be shorter and less substantial.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 31 May 2012 01:54:31PM 0 points [-]

Letting go of the assumption that karma means much above -3 would also go a long way. Karma is just here really to keep trolls away

I wonder how hard it would be to build a LW addon (like the antikibbitzer) that replaced numeric readouts with a tier label (e.g. "A" >=10, "F" for <=-3, etc.), and how using that would affect my experience of LW.

Comment author: RobertLumley 31 May 2012 01:56:48PM 0 points [-]

I think that would be pretty awkward, since posts would start in the "C" range. I think most people here would consider getting a "C" bad. But tiers make for an interesting concept, if you move away from grades.

Comment author: Emile 31 May 2012 08:40:41PM 0 points [-]

Use the fact that the date is also displayed to give a "?" instead for posts less than a day old, or have thresholds that move a bit for the first couple days.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 31 May 2012 06:17:36PM 0 points [-]

Sure; the specific tier thresholds are secondary and might even be user-definable parameters, so people don't need to know what tier they're in on my screen, if knowing that would make them feel bad.