shokwave comments on Only say 'rational' when you can't eliminate the word - Less Wrong

55 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 31 May 2012 06:56AM

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Comment author: Jay_Schweikert 31 May 2012 03:06:36PM 3 points [-]

But then what about "optimal car-buying"? Surely if someone is taking the time to describe how to buy a car, they probably think it's the optimal method, or at least as close as they can get. So "optimal" would seem to be redundant too, and yet we would seem to prefer one over the other, even though they basically mean the same thing thing in this context.

Now, there may be some arrogance built into "rational" that's not present in "optimal," but I don't see the issue as one of redundancy. Rather, it seems like "rational" can sometimes come off as an assertion of superiority over another -- i.e., something like a man telling a female colleague that she needs to be more rational.

Comment author: shokwave 31 May 2012 03:09:09PM 2 points [-]

But then what about "optimal car-buying"

More precisely indicates we want to optimise a decision over a particular utility function, or at least set of desires.