JoshuaZ comments on Rationality Quotes June 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 02 June 2012 07:52:56PM 2 points [-]

And I've never heard of him, so perhaps he didn't change the world either.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 02 June 2012 11:12:05PM *  15 points [-]

A lot more people have heard of Michael Jordan than have heard of Norman Borlaug. Yet Borlaug is one of the few humans on the planet who can be personally credited with saving millions of lives. Who one has heard of is not likely to be highly correlated with what impact people have had.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 June 2012 12:04:23AM 1 point [-]

(I did perform a quick Google check after writing the comment and before posting it, just to make sure.)

Comment author: gwern 03 June 2012 12:50:52AM 2 points [-]

Somewhat ironically, I actually have heard of Moglen for what he's really famous for, but I thought the quote was from Elon Musk (for whom, it should be said, the quote would be much truer - so far). I was surprised you hadn't heard of him, so I checked Wikipedia and then realized my mistake.

Comment author: pnrjulius 09 June 2012 02:10:12AM -1 points [-]

And sadly, more people know who Snooki is than know who Jonas Salk was.

Comment author: satt 09 June 2012 09:20:57AM 1 point [-]

I wouldn't be surprised if more people had heard of Jonas Salk, especially outside the US (although I reckon JoshuaZ's right about Michael Jordan & Norman Borlaug).

Comment author: [deleted] 09 June 2012 10:16:07AM 0 points [-]

I had never heard of either, but after googling both I suspect that there are more people in the US who have heard of Snooki than people who have heard of Jonas Salk worldwide.

Comment author: satt 09 June 2012 10:51:20PM 1 point [-]

Snooki's pretty well-known in the US, but Jonas Salk's got staying power. Salk was a big American celebrity in his own right and is probably better known than Snooki among the middle-aged and certainly the old in the US & UK. As most people in the US & UK are at least 35-40 that might be enough to make Salk better known overall in those two countries.

Snooki does gets more hits & searches on Google but Salk's been a name for far longer and even holds his own against some rock stars in mentions in books.

Salk & Snooki are presumably less famous in non-Anglophone countries, and Salk must be worse off in that respect (reality TV antics better overcome language barriers), but he still has his half-century headstart, and the global effort to beat polio must've raised Salk's profile in quite a few countries.