wedrifid comments on Rationality Quotes June 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Stabilizer 03 June 2012 02:03:13AM 3 points [-]

I don't understand. Are you saying it wasn't impossible enough?

He actually did it in 1974. It took nearly six years of planning. In order to practice for the walk between the World Trade Center towers he first did tightrope walks between the towers of the Notre Dame and then the Sydney Harbor Bridge. All of these were of course illegal. In WTC case, he had to sneak in, tie the ropes between the towers without anyone knowing and walked between the towers without any harness for nearly 45 mins at that height with the wind and everything. For the complete details, watch the documentary 'Man on Wire'. I think it was as impossible as it got in his line of work.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 June 2012 09:02:32AM *  -1 points [-]

I don't understand.

How on earth could you not understand? If this is sincere incomprehension then all I can do is point to google: define.

Are you saying it wasn't impossible enough?

Yes. This quote is an example of nothing more than how to be confused about words and speak hyperbole for the sake of bravado.

If you have to ask whether something is "impossible enough" you have already answered your question.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 June 2012 09:45:47PM 4 points [-]

How on earth could you not understand? If this is sincere incomprehension then all I can do is point to google: define.

Have you seen Google's definitions yourself? Because 2. does seem to match what Stabilizer means.

Comment author: Stabilizer 03 June 2012 09:45:43PM *  2 points [-]

How on earth could you not understand?

Your sentence wasn't clear enough.

About your gripe with use of the word impossible: it's a quote. Most of the quotes are like applause-lights. Everybody who read that quote understood the intent and meaning. Philippe Petit didn't employ the literal meaning of impossible. But the literal meaning of 'impossible' is rarely used in colloquial contexts. Even in 'Shut up and do the impossible', the absolute literal meaning is not employed. Because if the literal meaning is used, then by definition you can't do it, ever. So the only thing left is the degree of impossibility. You say that the task was too doable to be considered 'impossible' under your standards. Fine. Just mentally replace 'impossible' in that sentence with 'really goddamn hard that no one's done before and everyone would call me crazy if I told them I'm going to do it' and you'd read it the way most people would read it. The spirit of the quote would still survive.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 June 2012 10:08:29PM *  -2 points [-]

About your gripe with use of the word impossible: it's a quote. Most of the quotes are like applause-lights.

Yes, it's an applause light. It isn't one that made me applaud. It isn't a rationalist quote. It doesn't belong here.

Just mentally replace 'impossible' in that sentence

No. I instead choose to mentally replace the quote entirely with a better one and oppose this one. Even Nike's "Just Do It" is strictly superior as rationalist quote, despite being somewhat lacking in actionable detail.

Comment author: kdorian 06 June 2012 03:13:54PM 2 points [-]

It isn't a rationalist quote. It doesn't belong here.

I am forced to disagree; a quote about conquering the (colloquially) impossible with sufficient thought and planning is very appropriate for this site.