MichaelHoward comments on Natural Laws Are Descriptions, not Rules - Less Wrong

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Comment author: MichaelHoward 07 August 2012 09:18:41PM 2 points [-]

I hereby nominate this for the 2012 Understatement Award.

How was it an understatement?

I acknowledge that it feels like one when you read it, but defining that way lies madness! Just ask the words "ironic" and "literally".

Comment author: TheOtherDave 08 August 2012 02:09:10AM 1 point [-]

I agree with David_Gerard: when I say I'm doing something, it appears to the reader as though I'm doing that thing.

I would also agree with various more-strongly-worded equivalents, such as "when I say I'm doing X in a series of acts that includes Y, it's disingenuous to later claim that Y wasn't intended to do X."

Hence, understatement. That is, an expression worded less strongly than, in my opinion, the situation justifies.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 07 August 2012 10:45:52PM *  -1 points [-]

Is "challenge the consensus" a performative utterance? By saying "I challenge the consensus regarding foo", do you thereby challenge the consensus regarding foo?

Consider: If I said, "I challenge the Less Wrong consensus that 2 + 2 = 5. I assert that it's 4," by saying this I wouldn't actually challenge a consensus that 2 + 2 = 5, because there isn't one to challenge. Rather, all I would be doing is setting up a straw man: falsely asserting the existence of a consensus, and then disagreeing with that imagined consensus.