TheOtherDave comments on The Power of Reinforcement - Less Wrong

96 Post author: lukeprog 21 June 2012 01:42PM

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 June 2012 04:09:57PM 0 points [-]

Sure. Suppose I believe my husband is a foolish, clumsy, unattractive oaf, and I want him to take dance lessons. Suppose I say to him, "Hey, husband! You are a foolish, clumsy, unattractive oaf. If you take dance lessons, you will be less clumsy. That's a good thing. Go take dance lessons!" I would say, in that situation, I have presented an honest, disrespectful argument to my husband with the intention of convincing him to do something different.

Comment author: [deleted] 22 June 2012 07:11:42PM 0 points [-]

That's not really a very good example. That in virtue of which its disrespectful is unconnected to that in virtue of which it appeals to reason.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 June 2012 07:19:31PM 0 points [-]

I agree completely that my example is disrespectful in virtue of (in vice of?) something other than its appeal to reason.

If that makes it a poor example of what you're asking for, I misunderstood what you were asking for. Which, given that you're repeatedly asking me for "an example" without actually saying precisely what you want an example of, is not too surprising.

So, perhaps it's best to back all the way out. If there's something specific you'd like me to provide an example of, and you can tell me what it is, I'll try to provide an example of it if I can. If there isn't, or you can't, that's OK too and we can drop this here.