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This is indeed key, thank you for putting it more concisely than I
Am I right that you would find specific praise, or praise on something that you genuinely didn't know whether you'd done well on, less annoying?
It varies. "Be specific" is usually better, but "be brief" is also often important to me. A slow break-down of specifics is important if I don't know how to improve. A brief summary is fine if I'm improving on my own and really just need to get more repetitions. These days I'm usually aware of which one I need, and can ask for it. Previously, I'd just get frustrated if I needed more specific advice, because communication is exhausting, and learning is exhausting, and the combination of the two sucked.
I damn well like getting points for effort–they're likely to be the only points I get for a while
I've found that it varies - if I have things down and just need to drill, I'll often be entirely content off in a corner repeating something mindlessly with minimal feedback (an occasionally "good effort, you will improve on this, don't worry" is very rewarding, but we're talking every 15-30 minutes)
Basically, I can enjoy drilling. I actually find it a ton of fun with most skills I've gotten good at - the skills I fail to improve are usually the ones where I don't enjoy drilling, and thus... don't drill. The assumption that just because I'm stuck repeating something a lot, I must need encouragement... tends to de-motivate me, because it says "hey, you're slow and abnormal and so I'm going to focus a lot on fixing you", which has a lot of bad connotations for me.
I strongly suspect your teaching style would not annoy me (or that you'd quickly adapt it around me), but a lot of people get stuck in the meme of "ALWAYS follow this script" and start completely ignoring body language cues that indicate a particular student DOESN'T do well with a certain script.
As an example: I hate, HATE the "positive - negative - positive" sandwich. It means I associate positive feedback with a lead-in to "something bad", and so any compliment is now a threat to me, a sign I did something else wrong. I also pattern-match fairly well, and once I figure out when it's a sandwich vs a genuine compliment, I'll get impatient to know why I was REALLY brought in to talk (i.e. what I did wrong).
Previously, I'd just get frustrated if I needed more specific advice, because communication is exhausting, and learning is exhausting, and the combination of the two sucked.
This sounds like a challenging situation. How were you able to move past this in order to be able to ask for more specific feedback when you needed it?
...I've found that it varies - if I have things down and just need to drill, I'll often be entirely content off in a corner repeating something mindlessly with minimal feedback (an occasionally "good effort, you will improve on thi
Part of the sequence: The Science of Winning at Life
Also see: Basics of Animal Reinforcement, Basics of Human Reinforcement, Physical and Mental Behavior, Wanting vs. Liking Revisited, Approving reinforces low-effort behaviors, Applying Behavioral Psychology on Myself.
Story 1:
On Skype with Eliezer, I said: "Eliezer, you've been unusually pleasant these past three weeks. I'm really happy to see that, and moreover, it increases my probability than an Eliezer-led FAI research team will work. What caused this change, do you think?"
Eliezer replied: "Well, three weeks ago I was working with Anna and Alicorn, and every time I said something nice they fed me an M&M."
Story 2:
I once witnessed a worker who hated keeping a work log because it was only used "against" him. His supervisor would call to say "Why did you spend so much time on that?" or "Why isn't this done yet?" but never "I saw you handled X, great job!" Not surprisingly, he often "forgot" to fill out his worklog.
Ever since I got everyone at the Singularity Institute to keep work logs, I've tried to avoid connections between "concerned" feedback and staff work logs, and instead take time to comment positively on things I see in those work logs.
Story 3:
Chatting with Eliezer, I said, "Eliezer, I get the sense that I've inadvertently caused you to be slightly averse to talking to me. Maybe because we disagree on so many things, or something?"
Eliezer's reply was: "No, it's much simpler. Our conversations usually run longer than our previously set deadline, so whenever I finish talking with you I feel drained and slightly cranky."
Now I finish our conversations on time.
Story 4:
A major Singularity Institute donor recently said to me: "By the way, I decided that every time I donate to the Singularity Institute, I'll set aside an additional 5% for myself to do fun things with, as a motivation to donate."
The power of reinforcement
It's amazing to me how consistently we fail to take advantage of the power of reinforcement.
Maybe it's because behaviorist techniques like reinforcement feel like they don't respect human agency enough. But if you aren't treating humans more like animals than most people are, then you're modeling humans poorly.
You are not an agenty homunculus "corrupted" by heuristics and biases. You just are heuristics and biases. And you respond to reinforcement, because most of your motivation systems still work like the motivation systems of other animals.
A quick reminder of what you learned in high school
What works
Example applications
For additional examples and studies, see The Power of Reinforcement (2004), Don't Shoot the Dog (2006), and Learning and Behavior (2008).
I close with Story 5, from Amy Sutherland:
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