pragmatist comments on Boltzmann Brains and Anthropic Reference Classes (Updated) - Less Wrong

-4 Post author: pragmatist 04 June 2012 04:04AM

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Comment author: pragmatist 04 June 2012 09:20:12PM *  0 points [-]

Your objection assumes that observers' subjective experience is generally a more or less reliable record of their causal history.

I hope this is not the case, since I don't believe this. I think it's pretty likely that our universe will contain many Boltzmann brain type observers whose subjective experience is not a reliable record of their causal history (or any sort of record at all, really). Could you clarify where my objection relies on this assumption?

Truthfully, though, I wouldn't describe the cosmological problem in the terms you've used.

The problem is often presented (including by Bostrom) as a straight Bayesian disconfirmation of models like Boltzmann's. That seems like a different argument from the one you present.

including "I am not a Boltzmann brain" in the problem statement is incoherent.

Why? The other three premises do not imply that I am a Boltzmann brain. They only imply that model X predicts I'm a Boltzmann brain. That doesn't conflict with the second premise.

Comment author: Nornagest 04 June 2012 09:21:03PM *  0 points [-]

I hope this is not the case, since I don't believe this

That was poorly worded. I'd already updated the grandparent before you posted this; hopefully the revised version will be clearer.

Why? The other three premises do not imply that I am a Boltzmann brain. They only imply that model X predicts I'm a Boltzmann brain. That doesn't conflict with the second premise.

I was talking about my formulation of the problem, not yours. Assuming you're not a Boltzmann brain does lead to a contradiction with one of my premises, specifically the one about invalid observations.