Will_Newsome comments on Open Problems Related to Solomonoff Induction - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Incorrect 06 June 2012 04:13:02PM *  1 point [-]

"Goddidit" is not that different.

Physics theories import low-complexity mathematical models. "Goddidit" imports complicated human notions of agency. Approximate explanations are fine if we can reason that their implicit complexity is low relative to their explanatory power (a relatively easily satisfied metric, after which competition between theories becomes the key factor).

In Solomonoff Induction, theories that don't explain data must contain that data raw.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 June 2012 04:33:33PM 2 points [-]

Also keep in mind that algorithmic information/probability theory is actually quite hard to interpret correctly --- the basic, intuitive way to read meaning into the math is not quite the way to do it. cousin_it has a post or two correcting some intuitive errors of interpretation.

Comment author: Incorrect 06 June 2012 04:59:31PM *  1 point [-]
Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 June 2012 05:06:28PM *  3 points [-]

Alas, none of those are the relevant ones I think. I'm actually rather busy visiting home, so I can only justify certain comments to myself, but I hope someone provides the links.

For what it's worth, I'm a little skeptical of lukeprog's understanding of SI --- no offense to him meant, it's just I so happen to believe he made a rather big error when interpreting the math. On the other hand, cousin_it seems to be really on the ball here. Those are just my impressions; I'm a pretend philosopher, not a compsci dude. At any rate I think it'd be just dandy for cousin_it to check Luke's posts and share his impression or critiques.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 June 2012 05:23:57PM *  1 point [-]

Here's one I was thinking of:

The prior of a hypothesis does not depend on its complexity - cousin_it

(If I recall, Nesov's comment clearly demonstrates the important point.)

Comment author: timtyler 07 June 2012 12:40:23AM *  0 points [-]

That post seems to mix together the concept of a prior with the concept of experience.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 June 2012 06:35:58PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 June 2012 06:38:29PM *  1 point [-]

we can adopt the general rule that mentioning K-complexity in a discussion of physics is always a sign of confusion :-)

Mentioning it anywhere except algorithmic information theory is a sign of confusion. This includes theology and parapsychology. Use just Bayes or, if you want to be all fancy, updateless-like decision theories. I love algorithmic probability to death but it's just not something you should use casually. Too many pitfalls.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 07 June 2012 02:04:49AM 0 points [-]

Use just Bayes

Bayes requires a prior.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 07 June 2012 03:57:37AM 2 points [-]

No one should ever need to discuss "priors". Focus on the likelihood ratio.

Comment author: timtyler 12 June 2012 01:10:59AM *  1 point [-]

...but that's like comparing apples and cheese!