Incorrect comments on Ask an experimental physicist - Less Wrong

35 Post author: RolfAndreassen 08 June 2012 11:43PM

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Comment author: Incorrect 17 June 2012 04:53:01AM 0 points [-]

How did you come to know this quantum state?

We guessed and got really lucky?

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 17 June 2012 04:05:05PM 0 points [-]

In other words, magic. As I said, if you're allowed to use magic you can reduce the entropy as much as you like.

Comment author: Incorrect 17 June 2012 04:55:44PM 0 points [-]

So is it impossible to guess and be lucky? Usually in this context the word "magic" would imply impossibility.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 17 June 2012 05:04:29PM 2 points [-]

Well no, it's not impossible, but the chance of it happening is obviously 2^-N, where N is the number of bits required to specify the state. It follows that if you have 2^N states, you will get lucky and extract useful work once; which is, of course, the same amount of useful work you would get from 2^N states anyway, whether you'd made a guess or not. Even on the ignorance model of entropy, you cannot extract anything useful from randomness!