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35 Post author: RolfAndreassen 08 June 2012 11:43PM

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Comment author: RolfAndreassen 10 June 2012 07:41:53PM 4 points [-]

Sure; the point is that we have lots of equivalent formulations of entropy and I don't see the need to pick out one of them as the correct way of understanding it. One or another may be more intuitively appealing to particular students, or better suited to particular problems, but they're all maps and not territories.

Comment author: Manfred 10 June 2012 07:52:24PM *  1 point [-]

Given a quantum state, you can always tell me the entropy of that specific quantum state. It's 0. If that's the territory, then where is entropy in the territory?

Comment author: wnoise 17 June 2012 07:03:05AM 0 points [-]

Given a quantum state, you can always tell me the entropy of that specific quantum state. It's 0.

Only for pure states. Any system you have will be mixed.

Comment author: Manfred 17 June 2012 09:19:47AM 0 points [-]

I believe you mean "you will have incomplete information about any system you could really have."

Comment author: wnoise 17 June 2012 09:24:29AM 0 points [-]

Operationally, it's a distinction without a difference.

Comment author: Manfred 17 June 2012 09:34:50AM 0 points [-]

Since the way this whole nest of comments got started was whether it makes sense to identify entropy with incomplete information, I'd say my reply to you was made with loaded language :P