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Comment author: bogdanb 01 September 2012 10:47:46AM *  0 points [-]

Why can't you build an electromagnetic version of a Tipler cylinder? Are electromagnetism and gravity fundamentally different?

Well yes, to the best of our knowledge they are: Electromagnetic charge doesn't bend space-time in the same way that gravitational charge (ie mass) does. However, finding a description that unifies electromagnetism (and the weak and strong forces) with gravity is one of the major goals of modern physics; it could be the case that, when we have that theory, we'll be able to describe an electromagnetic version of a Tipler cylinder, or more generally to say how spacetime bends in the presence of electric charge, if it does.

There’s something very confusing to me about this (the emphasized sentence). When you say “in the same way”, do you mean “mass bends spacetime, and electromagnetic charge doesn’t”, or is it “EM change also bends spacetime, just differently”?

Both interpretations seem to be sort-of valid for English (I’m not a native speaker). AFAIK it’s valid English to say “a catapult doesn’t accelerate projectiles the way a cannon does”, i.e., it still accelerates projectiles but does it differently, but it’s also valid English to say “neutron stars do not have fusion in their cores the way normal stars do”, i.e., they don’t have fusion in their cores at all. (Saying “X in the same way as Y” rather than the shorter “X the way Y” seems to lean towards the former meaning, but it still seems ambiguous to me.)

So, basically, which one do you mean? From the last part of that paragraph (“if it does”), it seems that we don’t really know. But if we don’t, than why are Reissner-Nordström or Kerr-Newman black holes treated separately from Schwarzschild and Kerr black holes? Wikipedia claims that putting too much charge in one would cause a naked singularity, doesn’t the charge have to bend spacetime to make the horizon go away?

I encountered similar ambiguity problems with basically all explanations I could find, and also for other physics questions. One such question that you might have an answer to is: Do superconductors actually have really, trully, honest-to-Omega zero resistance, or is it just low enough that we can ignore it over really long time frames? (I know superconductors per se are a bit outside of your research, but I assume you know a lot more than I do due to the ones used in accelerators, and perhaps a similar question applies to color-superconducting phases of matter you might have had to learn about for your actual day job.)

Comment author: MixedNuts 01 September 2012 08:52:07PM 3 points [-]

Do superconductors actually have really, trully, honest-to-Omega zero resistance, or is it just low enough that we can ignore it over really long time frames?

It's for-real zero. (Source: conference La supraconductivité dans tous ses états, Palaiseau, 2011) Take a superconductive loop with a current in it and measure its resistance with a precise ohmeter. You'll find zero, which tells you that the resistance must be less than the absolute error on the ohmeter. This tells you that an electron encounters a resistive obstacle at most every few ten kilometers or so. But the loop is much smaller than that, so there can't be any obstacles in it.

Comment author: bogdanb 02 September 2012 07:12:55AM 1 point [-]

It's for-real zero. (Source: conference La supraconductivité dans tous ses états, Palaiseau, 2011)

Man, that is so weird. I live in Palaiseau—assuming you’re talking about the one near Paris—and I lived there in 2011, and I had no idea about that conference. I don’t even know where in Palaiseau it could have taken place...

Comment author: MixedNuts 02 September 2012 10:46:31AM 1 point [-]

That one talk was at Supoptique. There were things at Polytechnique too, and I think some down in Orsay.