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Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 25 April 2009 06:23:23PM *  5 points [-]

For comparison, beisu would be pronounced roughly like "base". If the sibilant in "Bayes" is voiced, as I would expect, then beizu would be more accurate (this actually bothered me a bit when reading Eliezer's earlier stuff, but it seemed too petty to bring up at the time). However, I have seen a few badly-rendered loanwords imported into Japanese in a way that matches the romaji letters to the original spelling, rather than matching the actual phonetics.

For extra fun, these would be written as ベイズ使い or ベイス使い (the latter using the unvoiced consonant).

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 April 2009 07:05:30PM 2 points [-]

Huh. The way I mentally pronounce this seems to be closer to bei-su-tzkai than bei-zu-tzkai, but when I say it out loud, it can come out either way.

Does anyone know how "Bayes" itself is standardly written in Japanese?

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 25 April 2009 07:39:20PM *  4 points [-]

Does anyone know how "Bayes" itself is standardly written in Japanese?

Apparently it's written as beizu.

In hindsight it would have made more sense for me to just look that up in the first place rather than pontificating about transliteration in my previous post. Ah, well.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 25 April 2009 07:40:44PM 2 points [-]

Well now I'm torn. Damn it, in writing, "beisutsukai" looks far better than "beizutsukai" and it may even sound better.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 25 April 2009 08:20:07PM *  3 points [-]

Could always handwave something about the fictional world in which the beisutsukai exist as having drifted norms of English pronunciation such that a word-terminal "s" is never voiced, making "Bayes" sound like "base".

Other than that, though, beizu remains more accurate, unfortunately.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 26 April 2009 03:52:36AM 0 points [-]

Not to me. z's are inherently cooler than s's.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 27 April 2009 01:04:18AM -1 points [-]

You've already coined the word. Too late to change it!