Dr_Manhattan comments on Reply to Holden on 'Tool AI' - Less Wrong

94 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 June 2012 06:00PM

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Comment author: Dr_Manhattan 12 June 2012 03:15:18PM 1 point [-]

Demis Hassabis (VC-funded to the tune of several million dollars)

No public reference to his start-up that I can find.

Comment author: lukeprog 12 June 2012 03:29:41PM *  21 points [-]

They're still underground, with Shane Legg and at least a dozen other people on board. The company is called "Deep Mind" these days, and it's being developed as a games company. It's one of the most significant AGI projects I know of, merely because Shane and Demis are highly competent and approaching AGI by one of the more tractable paths (e.g. not AIXI or Goedel machines). Shane predicts AGI in a mere ten years—in part, I suspect, because he plans to build it himself.

Acquiring such facts is another thing SI does.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 June 2012 06:11:46PM 8 points [-]

I wouldn't endorse their significance the same way, and would stand by my statement that although the AGI field as a whole has perceptible risk, no individual project that I know of has perceptible risk. Shane and Demis are cool, but they ain't that cool.

Comment author: lukeprog 12 June 2012 06:21:11PM 8 points [-]

Right. I should have clarified that by "one of the most significant AGI projects I know of" I meant "has a very tiny probability of FOOMing in the next 15 years, which is greater than the totally negligible probability of FOOMing in the next 15 years posed by Juergen Schmidhuber."

Comment author: cousin_it 13 June 2012 09:54:14AM 2 points [-]

Googling for "hassabis legg deepmind" seems to reveal that Jaan Tallinn is also one of the directors there.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 13 June 2012 09:25:51PM 0 points [-]

I am willing to make a bet that there will be no AGI in 10 years created by this company.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 13 June 2012 10:11:56PM 4 points [-]

I am in general willing to make bets against anyone producing an artificial human-level intelligence (for a sufficiently well-defined unpacking of that term) in ten years. If I win, great, I win the bet. If I lose, great, we have artificial human-level intelligence.

Comment author: Manfred 12 June 2012 03:36:53PM 0 points [-]

Huh. Yeah, he seems to just be a researcher at the Gatsby Institute, which is partially industry-funded, but not VC-funded.