JGWeissman comments on Reply to Holden on 'Tool AI' - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JGWeissman 12 June 2012 05:01:44PM 2 points [-]

However, there's a weaker claim, that SIAI is not thinking about Tool AI much if at all, and that it would be worthwhile to think about (e.g. because it already routinely exists), which Eliezer didn't really answer.

Answering that was the point of section 3. Summary: Lots of other people also have their own favored solutions they think are obvious, none of which are also Tool AI. You shouldn't really expect that SIAI would have addressed your particular idea before you or anyone else even talked about it.

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Comment author: CarlShulman 13 June 2012 04:06:37PM 3 points [-]

It's been discussed in conversation as one among many topics at places like SIAI and FHI, but not singled out as something to write a large chunk of a 50,000 word piece about, ahead of other things.

Comment author: JGWeissman 13 June 2012 05:13:19AM 0 points [-]

The argument is not that SIAI should not have to address the idea at all, but that they should not have to have already addressed the idea before anyone ever proposed it. The bulk of the article did address the idea, this one section explained why that particular idea wasn't addressed before.

Comment author: DSimon 13 June 2012 02:17:56AM 0 points [-]

I don't think that makes sense in this context. AI is still a largely unsolved, mysterious business. Any low-hanging fruit that's been is still there, because we haven't even been able to pick a single apple yet.

Comment author: Strange7 13 June 2012 02:48:18AM 4 points [-]

It seems that way because AI keeps getting redefined as what we haven't figured out yet. If you told some ancient Arabic scholar that, in the modern day, we can build things out of mostly metal and oil and sand that have enough knowledge of medicine or astronomy or chess or even just math to compete with the greatest human experts, machines that can plot a route across a convoluted city or stumble but remain standing when kicked or recognize different people by looking at their faces or the way they walk, he'd think we have that "homunculus" business pretty much under control.

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