Alicorn comments on Group rationality diary, 6/11/12 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 17 June 2012 09:59:04PM 2 points [-]

What was the project about and why was it obviously hopeless?

Comment author: thomblake 19 June 2012 03:37:22PM 1 point [-]

Here is the relevant kickstarter. It's a kickstarter for a media campaign to promote an already-written book.

Comment author: Alicorn 19 June 2012 05:12:03PM 2 points [-]

Ugh, it puts a review of itself at every pledge level.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 20 June 2012 03:35:00AM 0 points [-]

Shoot me now. No cryonics.

Seven people have put in $700 each. I'm hoping it's the author putting in money to make the project look good, but I have no strong reason to think that's the case.

What's really annoying is that "how a godless universe creates" is actually a question that probably needs to be answered more times, or at least I was explaining to a friend that there's no evidence that life needs more than time and randomness to come into existence.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 June 2012 08:08:48AM 1 point [-]

"Entropy is wrong" is where I stopped reading the Kickstarter.

Comment author: wedrifid 18 June 2012 08:49:18AM 0 points [-]

"Entropy is wrong" is where I stopped reading the Kickstarter.

Wow. What can that phrase even mean?

Comment author: Manfred 18 June 2012 10:00:41AM *  7 points [-]

... morally :P

Comment author: wedrifid 18 June 2012 10:34:40AM 5 points [-]

... morally :P

Good point. Screw entropy. :P

Comment author: betterthanwell 22 June 2012 01:17:49PM 1 point [-]

Wow. What can that phrase even mean?

Uhm, time should run backwards?

Comment author: Multiheaded 01 July 2012 11:16:45AM 0 points [-]

Philip K. Dick did say that it should run backwards! I forgot how his line went, though.

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 18 June 2012 08:59:37AM 0 points [-]

Google it and you land on a promised book by Howard Bloom, which also promotes "heresies" like "a does not equal a" and "one plus one does not equal two", as a way to understand "how a godless cosmos creates".

So these are deliberately paradoxical slogans, being used to hype what may be quite mundane insights. "Entropy is wrong" could just mean "despite the second law, growth and evolution are possible".

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 18 June 2012 09:04:37AM 4 points [-]

Fundraising is the mind-killer.

Comment author: wedrifid 18 June 2012 09:12:58AM *  3 points [-]

So these are deliberately paradoxical slogans, being used to hype what may be quite mundane insights. "Entropy is wrong" could just mean "despite the second law, growth and evolution are possible".

So they could have said... "There is plenty of neg-entropy out there. Burn it to make fun stuff happen!"?

Comment author: RichardKennaway 18 June 2012 01:14:14PM *  0 points [-]

Google it and you land on a promised book by Howard Bloom, which also promotes "heresies" like "a does not equal a" and "one plus one does not equal two", as a way to understand "how a godless cosmos creates".

I really hope this piece of crackpottery does not reach its target.

ETA: Well, it did, which I guess was inevitable. I just read the Kickstarter TOS, and I can't see any prohibition against gaming their system for publicity instead of raising money, by donating to your own Kickstarter to reach its target, then getting most of your own money back. So it wouldn't be libellous to speculate if this had just happened.