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Comment author: [deleted] 13 June 2012 07:50:24PM 3 points [-]

Few "beliefs" and "belief-systems"—or more accurately, decision-policy-systems and social-signaling-systems—are as attractive as Mormonism.

You're claiming all religious beliefs reduce to decision policies and social signals? That's pretty cynical, even for you.

I don't think being Mormon is a sign of low epistemic standards so much as a sign of high instrumental rationality.

It can't be both? (Not that I see its "high instrumental rationality" either.)

Furthermore I think Glenn Beck or his ghostwriter understands the political situation better than most LWers. That said I've never heard or read anything by Glenn Beck except the above excerpt.

Bleh. If I wanted to argue the merit of X's thought to people who hadn't read X, I'd go harass XiXiDu on G+. Consider me tapped out.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 13 June 2012 07:57:18PM *  3 points [-]

You're claiming all religious beliefs reduce to decision policies and social signals? That's pretty cynical, even for you.

Not all, just a pretty big chunk, especially among Mormons. I guess I didn't think of it as "cynical". That's a weird word.

It can't be both? (Not that I see its "high instrumental rationality" either.)

'Course it can. But the existence of two causal factors makes it hard to determine which of the two causal factors contributed most of the causal juices to our observation, such that "low epistemic standards" isn't quite as obviously a big factor.

I edited my comment to "Singularity's political situation". I didn't mean to imply Beck has a good political model more generally. Priors say he doesn't.