Multiheaded comments on Glenn Beck discusses the Singularity, cites SI researchers - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Multiheaded 13 June 2012 08:56:10PM *  0 points [-]

Maybe you have a deontological soft-spot for gays, or you have an egoistic preference for the wellbeing of gays.

Not for gays specifically, of course, just for all minorities who share the "born that way but can be broken into a different mold by torture+brainwashing" pattern. If Mormons tried those "shaming" tactics, etc on, say, opponents of transhumanism or borderline-autistic geeks, I'd speak out for those. Because I feel that, socially, manipulating people like that is a line that should not be crossed.

Well, of course I take it personally being bisexual myself, but still - I spoke out for gay rights even before I realized my own sexuality, just because it always looked like a glaring injustice to me.

Comment author: Emile 13 June 2012 09:24:24PM 4 points [-]

Not for gays specifically, of course, just for all minorities who share the "born that way but can be broken into a different mold by torture+brainwashing" pattern.

That description would cover psychopaths, alcoholics, people with anger management problems, etc. - and in their case, the brainwashing seems much more justified if it works. It might even justify the occasional "fixing" of someone that doesn't need to be fixed (though I don't know if that's the case for Mormonism).

Comment author: Will_Newsome 13 June 2012 08:58:56PM 5 points [-]

Aren't you currently shaming Mormonism? Not tolerating intolerance isn't exactly self-defeating, but if you look at the antifa guys, you really start to wonder whether that's a path you want to go down.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 14 June 2012 01:27:00AM 3 points [-]

Could you taboo what you mean by "torture+brainwashing".

Comment author: Multiheaded 14 June 2012 02:23:48AM 1 point [-]

See my other reply; it's aggressive influence by people in a position of emotional power - influence that has no justifiable social goal.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 14 June 2012 12:02:56PM *  4 points [-]

See my other reply; it's aggressive influence by people in a position of emotional power - influence that has no justifiable social goal.

So, by "torture+brainwashing", you mean persuasion? Your terminology is slightly confusing, to say the least.