JoshuaFox comments on Wanted: "The AIs will need humans" arguments - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaFox 15 June 2012 03:14:12PM 1 point [-]

And don't forget the elephant in the living room: An FAI needs humans, inasmuch as its top goal is precisely the continued existence and welfare of humans.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 15 June 2012 03:22:42PM 3 points [-]

FAI's "top goal" is whatever it is that humans' collective "top goal" is.
It's not at all clear that that necessarily includes the continued existence and welfare of humans.

Comment author: evand 15 June 2012 06:43:41PM 2 points [-]

Especially if you get picky about the definition of a human. It seems plausible that the humans of today turn into the uploads of tomorrow. I can envision a scenario in which there is continuity of consciousness, no one dies, most people are happy with the results, and there are no "humans" left by some definitions of the word.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 15 June 2012 07:38:32PM 1 point [-]

Sure. You don't even have to get absurdly picky; there are lots of scenarios like that in which there are no humans left by my definitions of the word, and I still consider that an improvement over the status quo.

Comment author: timtyler 16 June 2012 10:23:55AM 0 points [-]

Humans have no instrumental value? Why not?