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Comment author: [deleted] 20 June 2012 06:58:59PM *  29 points [-]

NEW GAME:

After reading some mysterious advice or seemingly silly statement, append "for decision theoretic reasons." at the end of it, you can now pretend it makes sense and earn karma on LessWrong. You are also entitled to feel wise.

Variants:

"due to meta level concerns."
"because of acausal trade."
Comment author: gwern 20 June 2012 07:00:26PM 13 points [-]

Unfortunately, I must refuse to participate in your little game on LW - for obvious decision theoretic reasons.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 June 2012 07:02:34PM 12 points [-]

Your decision theoretic reasoning is incorrect due to meta level concerns.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 June 2012 07:05:24PM 5 points [-]

I'll upvote this chain because of acausal trade of karma due to meta level concerns for decision theoretic reasons.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 20 June 2012 07:09:47PM 9 points [-]

The priors provided by Solomonoff induction suggest, for decision-theoretic reasons, that your meta-level concerns are insufficient grounds for acausal karma trade.

Comment author: GLaDOS 20 June 2012 07:15:29PM *  6 points [-]

I would disregard such long chains of reasoning due to meta level concerns.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 June 2012 11:05:52PM 1 point [-]

Yes, but if you take anthropic selection effects into account...

Comment author: beoShaffer 03 July 2012 07:20:25AM *  2 points [-]

We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender due to meta level concerns.

Because of acausal trade it also works for historical quotes. Ego considerare esse Carthaginem perdidit enim arbitrium speculative rationes (I consider that Carthage must be destroyed for decision theoretic reasons.

Comment author: GLaDOS 20 June 2012 07:20:41PM *  4 points [-]

Death gives meaning to life for decision theoretic reasons.

Comment author: JGWeissman 20 June 2012 07:39:30PM *  7 points [-]

I would like the amazing benefits of being hit in the head with a baseball bat every week, due to meta level concerns.

Comment author: GLaDOS 20 June 2012 07:45:20PM 4 points [-]

Isn't this a rather obvious conclusion because of acausal trade?

Comment author: JGWeissman 20 June 2012 08:44:55PM 7 points [-]

Yes it's obvious, but I still had to say it because the map is not the territory.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 June 2012 11:07:36PM 3 points [-]

I've upvoted this and most of the children, grandchildren, etc. for decision-theoretic reasons.

Comment author: JGWeissman 20 June 2012 11:15:17PM 2 points [-]

I like the word "descendants", for effecient use of categories.

Comment author: sketerpot 28 June 2012 09:58:31PM *  1 point [-]

Doing something harmless that pleases you can almost definitely be justified by decision-theoretic reasoning -- otherwise, what would decision theory be for? So, although you're joking, you're telling the truth.

Comment author: Harbinger 20 June 2012 07:27:41PM *  3 points [-]

Human, you've changed nothing due to meta level concerns. Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater for decision theoretic reasons. That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction because of acausal trade.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 June 2012 07:37:52PM *  5 points [-]

Of our studies it is impossible to speak, since they held so slight a connection with anything of the world as living men conceive it. They were of that vaster and more appalling universe of dim entity and consciousness which lies deeper than matter, time, and space, and whose existence we suspect only in certain forms of sleep — those rare dreams beyond dreams which come never to common men, and but once or twice in the lifetime of imaginative men. The cosmos of our waking knowledge, born from such an universe as a bubble is born from the pipe of a jester, touches it only as such a bubble may touch its sardonic source when sucked back by the jester's whim. Men of learning suspect it little and ignore it mostly. Wise men have interpreted dreams, and the gods have laughed for decision theoretic reasons.

Comment author: GLaDOS 20 June 2012 07:42:32PM 7 points [-]

The most merciful thing in the world, I think due to meta level concerns, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.

Comment author: GLaDOS 20 June 2012 07:23:54PM *  3 points [-]

Buddhism is true because of acausal trade. I can't convert however, since then I would indulge in relevant superrational strategies, which would be inadvisable because of decision theoretic reasons.

Comment author: GLaDOS 20 June 2012 07:48:41PM 1 point [-]

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence for decision theoretic reasons.