I am confused by this comment. I was agreeing with Viliam that concern about consequences was important, and adding that concern about motives was also important... to which you seem to be responding that the idea is that concern about consequences is important. Have I missed something, or are we just going in circles now?
Sorry-- I missed the "also" in "There's also an element...."
If it's worth saying, but not worth its own post, even in Discussion, it goes here.