Zetetic comments on Bounded versions of Gödel's and Löb's theorems - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kindly 28 June 2012 12:00:32AM 2 points [-]

Since f(n)>>exp(g(n)), and the theory T proves in n symbols that "T can't prove a falsehood in f(n) symbols", we see that T proves in slightly more than n symbols that the program R won't find any proofs.

Could you elaborate on this? What is the slightly-more-than-n-symbols-long proof?

Comment author: Zetetic 28 June 2012 01:01:44AM *  2 points [-]

As I understand it, because T proves in n symbols that "T can't prove a falsehood in f(n) symbols", taking the specification of R (program length) we could do a formal verification proof that R will not find any proofs, as R only finds a proof if T can prove a falsehood within g(n)<exp(g(n)<<f(n) symbols. So I'm guessing that the slightly-more-than-n-symbols-long is on the order of:

n + Length(proof in T that R won't print with the starting true statement that "T can't prove a falsehood in f(n) symbols")

This would vary some with the length of R and with the choice of T.