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I've started watching the first season of Fate/Zero; about six episodes in. It is fantastically better than Fate/stay night, if only because we can finally see the full power of Saber supplied with a sufficient quantity of prana. Also Rider is the currently the best gay bara character in anime, if you're into that sort of thing.
However you'd probably want to watch Fate/stay night (or read a recap) beforehand anyway to learn how the Holy Grail Wars are supposed to work, because the first episode of Fate/Zero is a really bad at explaining anything.
EDIT: All of Serial Experiments Lain is on Hulu now, but I only made it a couple episodes before giving up. It's hard to watch something that was obviously revolutionary fifteen years ago.
I agree with you about Fate/Zero, quite good (I've watched all but the last episode, saving it for a rainy day), but there is something I just have to say. The Fate/Stay Night ANIME is a horrendous piece of steaming dung, but the Visual Novel is a masterpiece. The anime is one of the worst adaptions that has ever been done, it takes a wonderfully written and executed story and ruins it. If you like the Fate series at all, read the VN. (I don't think that Rider is gay. I think that you could interpret it that way, but the entire relationship dynamic with Waver seems more like manly platonic camaraderie.
Complete agreement; the decision to combine different paths of the VN was awful.
This is Alexander the Great we're talking about; history is unclear about his sexuality. But even if Rider and Waver have a platonic relationship (and I agree that they do), there's no question that the writers are drawing tropes from bara in his character design.
I watched the Stay Night anime and although it got bad at the end, on the whole I was happy to have watched it. I was puzzled that it was so highly recommended, but it was still among the better anime I've watched. I will check out the comic now, if I can find it.
I really really liked this anime..... up until the end. The last few episodes were just absolute trash, my friend group was super disappointed. =(
I enjoyed Fate/Zero fine without knowing anything much about F/SN (the anime of which I'd dropped after one episode).