hirvinen comments on Excuse me, would you like to take a survey? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: hirvinen 27 April 2009 02:03:28AM *  6 points [-]

Strongly disagree on Political Compass being better. The questions are heavily loaded, the very first question being

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

and many questions such as

Astrology accurately explains many things.

aren't at all about what should be done or what should be the state of things. What are you going to infer about my political beliefs based on my answer to that?

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Comment author: Jack 27 April 2009 02:18:24AM 1 point [-]

Questions are loaded in different directions (in comparison to the World's Smallest where all the questions are loaded in the libertarian direction) so the results balance each other out. Admittedly there are some questions that I wouldn't immediately think would indicate anything about my political beliefs but its seems to accurately place people- at least those I've talked to. Have you taken it and felt that your placement was wrong?

I have no doubt we could come up with a quiz better than either of these if we wanted to put in the time.

Comment author: hirvinen 27 April 2009 02:37:38AM 1 point [-]

The Political Compass seems to me, based on my own and friends' experiences to have a strong pressure towards the lower left corner. As one of them said, "you would have to want to sacrifice babies to corporations to end up in the upper right corner."

The World's Smallest Political Quiz isn't entirely neutral, but to me it would seem to spread people much more evenly, and importantly all questions are clearly on the two axis along which it measures political stance.

Comment author: Jack 27 April 2009 03:14:01AM 1 point [-]

Pressure in that direction is definitely possible given that thats where most of my friends think they belong anyway. Though its strange then that they place the entire American political spectrum in the upper right. I'll reconsider my position on it.

But the World's Smallest isn't a suitable alternative. Its just packed with weasel words and its going to obscure a lot of differences just because a lot of people are going to answer "Maybe sometimes" even if they lean heavily in one direction or the other. Also, the fact that this community is probably skewed libertarian anyway is just going to make it harder to interpret the results. The last thing we need is a poll that will automatically confirm our assumptions about this group's political views.