RolfAndreassen comments on Rationality Quotes July 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RolfAndreassen 02 July 2012 10:03:22PM 0 points [-]

Our brains' moral reasoning doesn't know about, or depend on, the chemical implementations of morally significant humans' bodies. Therefore there are no moral questions about chemistry, including human biochemistry.

I suspect that, if I propose to drip an unknown liquid into your eyes, you will find the question of its chemistry very morally significant indeed.

Since our morality is embedded in, and arises from, physics, the moral questions are indeed at some level about chemistry even if the current black-box reasoning we use has no idea how to deal with information expressed in chemical terms. When we fully understand morality, we will be able to take apart the high-level reasoning that our brains implement into reasoning about the moral significance of individual atoms.

Comment author: DanArmak 02 July 2012 10:48:08PM 0 points [-]

As I said: "Only specific applications of tools have moral status." The action of dripping liquid into my eyes has moral status. The chemical formula of the liquid, whatever it may be, does not. The only chemistry really relevant to morality is the chemistry of our brains that assign moral status to other things.

I know other formulations of "what is morally significant" are possible and sometimes seem useful, but they also seem to lead to the conclusion that everything is morally significant - e.g. assigning moral value to entire universe-states - which does away with the useful concept of some smaller thing being morally significant vs. amoral.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 03 July 2012 01:14:23AM 1 point [-]

The only chemistry really relevant to morality is the chemistry of our brains that assign moral status to other things.

Right. Which is the same as the point I was originally making: At least one chemical process has moral significance.

Comment author: DanArmak 03 July 2012 08:14:05AM 7 points [-]

That's true. It seems I've been arguing past you or at a strawman. Sorry.