sixes_and_sevens comments on Where to Intervene in a Human? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 03 July 2012 10:15:06PM 7 points [-]

There are a few answers to this:

  • OKCupid does actually ask quite a lot of personal questions, which people do answer. A few years ago the answers were kept private, but now users have the option to make them public, and there exists a certain amount of pressure to do so. I imagine this change results in less honest / accurate answers, but you would still be surprised what people admit to.

  • The service wouldn't have to tell you it was keeping track of your self-esteem over time, and matching you with concordant suitors at points when you'd both be most vulnerable to each other's charms. It would just ask you questions, like a curious but candid friend.

  • The questions I proposed above were gauche semi-serious examples. There are probably a number of more subtle questions that would correlate strongly with self-esteem without setting off alarm bells in the people that answer them.

  • Part of the reason for me talking about it is how unpalatable and creepy the idea is, and how a lot of the factors surrounding people being attracted to each other are not available to dating website service providers without a lot of effort they're probably not prepared to invest. There are probably some areas they can capitalise upon, however.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 July 2012 10:37:05PM 0 points [-]

The questions I proposed above were gauche semi-serious examples. There are probably a number of more subtle questions that would correlate strongly with self-esteem without setting off alarm bells in the people that answer them.

This isn't something that requires alarm bells. This is a dating website. Full signalling and screening mode is activated as a matter of course. It is extremely unlikely that I could benefit from giving the system evidence that I have low self esteem so I am not going to do so unless all else is compellingly not equal. I suppose this also requires being able to judge what questions have what self-esteem connotations but that isn't too hard.

It occurs to me that I play OkCupid as a min-maxing munchkin. (I recommend this. It seems to work!)

Part of the reason for me talking about it is how unpalatable and creepy the idea is, and how a lot of the factors surrounding people being attracted to each other are not available to dating website service providers without a lot of effort they're probably not prepared to invest. There are probably some areas they can capitalise upon, however.

I don't find it especially creepy. Sounds useful. I want the website to take whatever information I give it and connect me with people in the most effective way possible. Anything I don't want it to know I will not tell it (I will lie to it if necessary).

Comment author: [deleted] 03 July 2012 11:08:33PM 5 points [-]

I play OkCupid as a min-maxing munchkin.

Elaborate, please?

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 03 July 2012 10:43:41PM 2 points [-]

I would bet a sizeable sum of money that most users do not approach OKCupid in the same way you or I do, consciously or otherwise.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 July 2012 11:09:25PM 1 point [-]
Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 03 July 2012 11:15:34PM 1 point [-]

That's the sort of thing this algorithm is supposed to flag up.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 July 2012 11:17:03PM 1 point [-]

I hope you aren't on Twitter.

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 03 July 2012 11:26:28PM 0 points [-]

Oh sweet Jesus there are more than five pages...