wedrifid comments on Negative and Positive Selection - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 07 July 2012 05:25:47PM *  0 points [-]

I think this is simply false as a matter of fact. See this comment.

Ah, I was speaking in terms of finding talented researchers at the graduate and faculty level, not lvy league undergrad admissions. Your comments seem reasonable on the subject of undergrad admissions, which I agree are almost wholly negative selection filters. Do you think this also goes for graduate admissions? What should we anticipate observing if schools were bad at this kind of selection? What would we see if they were good at it?

EDIT: I'm working largely on the observation that getting a PhD in any field is really very easy. The major barrier seems to be interest. This doesn't go for all fields, of course. Law is a serious exception. But physics? Mathematics? I lack data here, but I'm skeptical that these are particularly closed academic fields.

Comment author: wedrifid 07 July 2012 10:07:07PM 0 points [-]

EDIT: I'm working largely on the observation that getting a PhD in any field is really very easy. The major barrier seems to be interest.

I'd contradict that. The entry requirements and task is utterly trivial and the intellectual and academic challenge isn't much of a big deal for anyone with average (or perhaps slightly above average) IQ but the motivational aspect is ridiculous.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 July 2012 11:59:49PM 0 points [-]

The entry requirements and task is utterly trivial and the intellectual and academic challenge isn't much of a big deal for anyone with average (or perhaps slightly above average) IQ but the motivational aspect is ridiculous.

Isn't that what I said?

Comment author: handoflixue 11 July 2012 09:11:33PM 0 points [-]

No, you said it was "really very easy", which implies that the motivation aspect is trivial. Something can be difficult FROM a motivational standpoint.