HCE comments on Theism, Wednesday, and Not Being Adopted - Less Wrong

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Comment author: badger 27 April 2009 09:56:28PM 5 points [-]

I agree that there is no reason atheists always "win". Maybe becoming a theist while holding all other beliefs constant will be an improvement, but I don't think this is a practical analysis. Ceteris paribus, Wednesday should stay Mormon, but the cognitive algorithms would make her stay Mormon are very likely to have detrimental effects on net.

Comment author: HCE 28 April 2009 06:28:17AM 0 points [-]

human beings are capable of having domain and context-specific cognitive algorithms. preferring comforting but false metaphysical truths does not mean she will prefer (more than others) reassuring but maladaptive beliefs about her local environment. her incentives to believe in some fanciful anthropomorphized abstraction are of an entirely different type than her incentives to believe true or false things about the intentions and motives of those she will interact with professionally, say.

are theists more or less likely to demonstrate competence on card-selection tasks or other tests of rational belief formation?

Comment author: badger 28 April 2009 07:06:06AM 1 point [-]

I agree people are capable of partitioning. Theists likely do the same as atheists in emotionally disconnected circumstances like a card-selection task. But this doesn't establish Wednesday is better off as a theist than as an atheist overall. And at least in the Mormon case, where decisions can be fully justified by "I felt good about it, ergo God endorses it", I am willing to claim that theists are less likely to engage in something even as basic as cost-benefit analysis.

Comment author: HCE 28 April 2009 08:15:06AM *  1 point [-]

i did not say it established she was better off as a theist than as an atheist. i was merely pointing out that being a theist does not make anyone more or less likely (as far as i know) to believe things which are false about their local environment (beyond those things which necessarily follow from their beliefs, e.g., this priest sure is wise in the ways of the Lord! he must be wise about other things, too!).

do we have any data suggesting atheists hold more accurate beliefs than theists about phenomena that they experience firsthand?

Comment author: AlexU 28 April 2009 09:24:19PM 1 point [-]

Pretty doubtful, especially controlling for IQ and education...