aelephant comments on An Intuitive Explanation of Solomonoff Induction - Less Wrong

53 Post author: Alex_Altair 11 July 2012 08:05AM

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Comment author: aelephant 14 July 2012 11:49:57PM 0 points [-]

And even more problematic, some of the algorithms will run forever without producing output—and we can't prove they will never stop running.

Maybe it is just my reading, but these 2 sentences seem to contradict each other. You say the algorithms "will run forever" but then you say that you can't prove that they will never stop running forever. Doesn't "never stop running forever" equal "will run forever"? If you don't know that they will never stop running forever, how can you say that they will run forever?

Comment author: [deleted] 15 July 2012 12:05:52AM 0 points [-]

Some algorithms run forever, some do not, and we do not have any way to prove that an algorithm is in the first set and not the latter, that was my interpretation at least.

Comment author: aelephant 15 July 2012 12:15:36AM 0 points [-]

How do you know some algorithms run forever if you have no way of proving that an algorithm is in the set "runs forever" or not?

Comment author: Nornagest 15 July 2012 01:50:25AM *  5 points [-]

You can prove that some algorithms run forever. Similarly, you can prove that some algorithms halt. What you can't do is come up with a procedure that will determine whether an arbitrary algorithm you feed it halts or not.