gwern comments on [link] Cargo Cult Debugging - Less Wrong

-5 Post author: MarkL 09 July 2012 04:05PM

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Comment author: gwern 09 July 2012 08:58:37PM 3 points [-]

Really? I hadn't heard that; so what's the right interpretation?

Comment author: [deleted] 09 July 2012 11:46:07PM 2 points [-]

If I understand the later research, the criticism is that Skinner projected rather than observed repeating behaviors in the pigeons. Skinner was associating the corner-touching with the pigeons more than the pigeons were associating the corner-touching with the food.

Scientific problem solving includes falsification, and that's what'd I'd offer as a right interpretation / good way to minimize cargo-cult solutions. Non-scientific problem solving includes anything you like and the provisional proof is found only in the proverbial pudding.

Comment author: HumanFlesh 16 July 2012 07:23:47AM 0 points [-]

Cite please.

Skinner avoided appeals to internal states and demonstrated how schedules of reinforcement affected behaviour.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 July 2012 02:12:53PM 0 points [-]

http://tinyurl.com/6gu6p2

That goes to the Wikipedia entry on Skinner, sub-section 'Superstition of the Pigeon.'

Comment author: HumanFlesh 20 July 2012 11:59:52AM 0 points [-]

The link contends the terminology used to describe superstitious behaviour. It doesn't claim that an arbitrary schedule of reinforcement has no effect on the pigeon behaviour.