Thanks for the discussion. At this point I'll write another top-level posting rather than make a dozen point-for-point replies. Also, some of the comments, mine included, have pressed a little too hard on the embargo against a certain topic.

Besides, the topic we do not speak of yet is one I'm not much interested in talking about at all, and will be avoiding as far as I can. It has its own forums. I wonder if the original reason for the embargo might justify keeping it permanently? This is intended to be a forum about human rationality, and talk of any other sort should only be incidental.