ciphergoth comments on Useful maxims - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 11 July 2012 02:45:21PM 4 points [-]

This works for romance/sex, too. Have a hard wall on how far you'll go, and only move it when you're alone and calm. When you're in the heat of the moment, keep in mind that you can move it when you're alone and calm. You can even intend to do so -- and if when the time comes, you still think so, there you go.

Having that pressure release helps actually stay within the bounds you set. Otherwise it requires a great dal more patience.

Comment author: ciphergoth 11 July 2012 07:59:37PM 7 points [-]

I have to say, I'm not sure I know why you would want to set strong bounds here, particularly when it comes to sex. I have never had occasion to think "I wish I hadn't done that sexual thing that seemed like a good idea in the heat of the moment".

Comment author: RichardKennaway 11 July 2012 08:47:26PM 3 points [-]

There are some other people of whom this is true, but not in a good way.

Comment author: ciphergoth 12 July 2012 07:10:14AM 1 point [-]

Safety in general is a whole different thing. I think Luke's maxim is about regrets rather than safety.

Comment author: billswift 12 July 2012 05:20:47PM *  0 points [-]

They are not mutually exclusive. I can't think of anything I would regret more than causing a permanent injury to myself or another person.

Comment author: ciphergoth 13 July 2012 06:04:47AM 1 point [-]

Is there a better word for the distinction I'm trying to draw?

Comment author: billswift 13 July 2012 12:06:22PM *  0 points [-]

Not really, because I don't think they are distinct in the way you suggested; rather, I think safety issues are a subset of "things I'll likely regret".

ADDED: Or at least safety issues where things actually do go wrong are "things I'll likely regret".

Comment author: handoflixue 18 July 2012 08:31:11PM 0 points [-]

The set of regrets NOT related to safety, and the set of regrets over safety, are two separate sets. Or, if you must, two separate subsets of "things I'll likely regret."

Most people seem to intuitively understand the idea of "emotional" vs "safety" regrets when it comes to sex. i.e. the difference between "I wish I hadn't slept with her, because it ruined our friendship" vs "I wish I hadn't slept with her, because now it burns when I pee."

Comment author: RobertLumley 11 July 2012 08:07:23PM 4 points [-]

I have never had occasion to think "I wish I hadn't done that sexual thing that seemed like a good idea in the heat of the moment".

This is much more commonly true for men than women.

Comment author: CronoDAS 12 July 2012 05:57:22AM 1 point [-]

Have you ever been in a position in which you were tempted to cheat on a significant other? (I think you've written about being in polyamorous relationships...)

Comment author: ciphergoth 12 July 2012 07:07:27AM 4 points [-]

I've never been in a monogamous relationship. But that would seem like a situation where you already have decided on a bound in advance, and so a rule reminding you to set such a bound doesn't move you forward.

Comment author: CronoDAS 12 July 2012 07:16:20AM 4 points [-]

Boundaries have a way of getting fuzzy in the moment. Is it cheating if you kiss someone? If you kiss with tongue? If you put hands on breasts? Etc. Slippery slope, and all that.