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Comment author: anansi133 03 January 2013 06:21:57PM 6 points [-]

Hello, newbie here. I'm intrigued by the premise of this forum.

About me: I think a lot- mostly by myself. That's trained me in some really lazy habits that I am looking to change now.

In the last few weeks, I noticed what I think are some elemental breakdowns in human politics. When things go bad between people, I think it can be attributed to one of three causes: immaturity, addiction, or insanity. I would love to discuss this further, hoping someone's interested.

I wasn't going to mention theism, but it's here in the main post, and suddenly I'm interested: I trend toward the athiestic- I'm really unimpressed with my grandmother's deity, and "supernatural" doesn't seem a useful or interesting category of phenomena. But I like being agnostic more than atheist, just on a few tiny little wiggle-words that seem powerfully interesting to me, and I notice that other people seem to find survival value in it. So that's probably something I will want to talk about.

Many of my more intellectual friends and neighbors can seem like bullies a lot of the time. So I like the word "rationality" in the title of this place, much more than I like "science" or "logic". When I see the war of the darwin fish on people's bumpers, I remember that the Romans still get a lot of credit for their accomplishments even though math and science as we know it barely existed. Obsession with mere logic seems to put an awful lot of weight on some unexamined premises- and people don't talk in formal logic any more than they math in roman numerals.

I'm not against vaccination, but I am a caregiver to a profoundly autistic child. It's frustrating to try to have any sort of conversation about autism without it devolving into a vaccination tirade.

I don't think of myself as a 9/11 "truther", and yet I still have many questions about those events and the response that trouble me. Some of these questions are getting answered now that the 10 year anniversary has seen the release of more information. As with the Kennedy assassination, I don't think the full story will ever be widely known. I'm cynical enough that I doubt that it matters.

SETI fascinates me. Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, UFOs- not so much. Whitley Streiber is actually kind of interesting, when I can muster up the required grains of salt.

Anyway, it feels a bit like I'm crawling out from under a rock, not sure what the weather is really like out here. I want to outgrow the pleasures of cleverness, hoping for some happiness in wisdom.

Comment author: simplicio 03 January 2013 06:46:10PM 1 point [-]

About me: I think a lot- mostly by myself. That's trained me in some really lazy habits that I am looking to change now.

Yes, I know the feeling. Welcome out of the echo chamber!

I like being agnostic more than atheist, just on a few tiny little wiggle-words that seem powerfully interesting to me...

Do you mean that it's literally the words you find interesting? Which ones?

Comment author: anansi133 03 January 2013 07:15:36PM 0 points [-]

That's not actually what I meant, but the challenge seems interesting. lemme see...

Reciprocity? (I'm looking for a word to describe what happens when Islam holds Jesus up as a prophet worth listening to, but Christians afford no such courtesy to Muhammad.)

Faith (Firefly's Book asks Mal, "when I ask you to have faith, why do you think I'm talking about God?")

Ethics vs Morals (few people I know seem to recognize a difference, let alone agree on it)

Moral Class (If we were to encounter a powerful extraterrestrial, how would we know they weren't God? How would they understand the question if we asked them?)

I guess the words weren't so small after all...