Strange7 comments on Welcome to Less Wrong! (July 2012) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 March 2013 08:41:51AM 4 points [-]

This information is irretrievable once the damage is done.

How do you know? I'm not asking for some burden of infinite proof where you have to prove that the info can't be stored elsewhere. I am asking whether you know that widely functionally different start states are being mapped onto an overlapping spread of molecularly identical end states, and if so, how. E.g., "denaturing either conformation A or conformation B will both result in denatured conformation C and the A-vs.-B distinction is just a little twist of this spatially isolated thingy here so you wouldn't expect it to be echoed in any exact nearby positions of blah" or something.

Comment author: Strange7 21 March 2013 08:52:42AM 0 points [-]

The end states don't need to be identical, just indistinguishable.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 March 2013 09:16:47AM 2 points [-]

To presume that states non-identical up to thermal noise are indistinguishable seems to presume either lower technology than the sort of thing I have in mind, or that you know something I don't about how two physical states can be non-identical up to thermal noise and yet indistinguishable.