Viliam_Bur comments on [SEQ RERUN] The Comedy of Behaviorism - Less Wrong

0 Post author: MinibearRex 20 July 2012 04:10AM

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 20 July 2012 08:22:41AM 1 point [-]

If I remember it correctly, later behaviorists said that it is also scientific to propose the existence of "hidden variables", if the model needs it -- as long as one does not suggest what exactly they are, because that would be unscientific.

These behaviorists could explain an angry person by saying that punching them in the nose activated a hidden variable X, and that the hidden variable X can make the person punch back, or kick, or do something like this. It is all correct, as long as you avoid connecting the hidden variable X with anger (because anger is unscientific).

This kind of model could get just as close to reality as any other model, only without the obvious names for concepts. Which perhaps could be useful for building an artificial intelligence, because we would not make the mistake of believing that just because the variable has the correct name, it must work correctly.

Comment author: MixedNuts 20 July 2012 10:20:15AM 3 points [-]

How do you not connect with anger a hidden variable that correlates with punching, kicking, shouting, assuming a facial expression recognized as anger by independent judges, and saying "When you punch me in the face, I feel angry"?

Comment author: RomeoStevens 20 July 2012 11:14:26AM 4 points [-]

the useful bits of "variable X" are the behaviors you expect to see because of it. The word "Anger" is just a tag for a particular grouping of phenomena.

Comment author: MinibearRex 21 July 2012 05:21:00AM 2 points [-]

Yeah, but it's very hard to predict what exactly variable X is going to do, unless you know that it stands for anger.