juliawise comments on Generalizing From One Example - Less Wrong

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Comment author: juliawise 09 September 2011 10:29:15PM 3 points [-]

As far as I know, there's not pickup literature for the folk dance scene.

Yes, in a general way, I find confidence and social competence attractive in any environment. But at least consciously, my strategy was to look for nerdy boys who weren't overconfident - because desperate boys would value me more. Devotion alone doesn't make for a good relationship, so the trick was to find one who was both devoted and interesting. (And a folk dancer.)

Comment author: MarcTheEngineer 20 October 2011 03:47:20PM *  2 points [-]

Are you on "The Pill" - Recent scientific studies have indicated that taking birth control hormones actually affects a woman's attraction triggers. Essentially the pill causes a woman to more highly value masculine traits that indicate stability (because it tricks the body into believing its pregnant, the body decides it wants to mate with a male who will take care of it, rather than the best possible sperm).

There is some discussion that the pill could be in part responsible for the increase in divorce rates as women come off the pill after marriage and suddenly find themselves no longer attracted to their husbands.

While there isn't any literature specific to folk dancing, there is significant literature on the subject of using Niche Hobbies for pickup... As well, while "appearing desperate" is certainly advised against in basically any pickup literature, there is a significant body of work on the subject of appearing interesting (breakdowns on how to structure your conversation with someone new so that you can appear to have common interests... essentially how to make a cold read on someone).

I would be surprised if you don't find real desperation a complete turn-off... guys who are actually desperate are almost universally despised by women and are generally called "creepy".

On a side note - Pickup Theory asserts (This is even part of Mystery's work) that showing vulnerability mixed in with confidence is an effective method in demonstrating your Long Term potential if your cold read of your target indicates that she is looking for an LTR.

Comment author: juliawise 20 October 2011 04:42:27PM 2 points [-]

I wasn't on the pill when I was looking for a mate. True, pure desperation is not attractive, but I was looking for a medium value between cockiness and desperation.

Comment author: Jack 09 September 2011 10:55:39PM 5 points [-]

I think it is fair to say looking for desperation is an unusual dating strategy for young women (though if desperation isn't a turn-off for you, clearly a winning one).

Comment author: Arepo 23 September 2011 02:49:30PM 4 points [-]

Hitting on desperate boys(/girls) is an unusual strategy by definition...

Comment author: wedrifid 23 September 2011 03:18:06PM 3 points [-]

(Nitpick: This is not technically by definition.)

Comment author: dlthomas 20 October 2011 05:14:03PM 5 points [-]

By the definition of desperate including "not frequently hit on"?