gwern comments on The Criminal Stupidity of Intelligent People - Less Wrong

-14 Post author: fare 27 July 2012 04:08AM

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Comment author: gwern 27 July 2012 01:46:00PM 10 points [-]

And then there's the bullshit:

And then I had to find that my naive theory of intelligence didn't hold water: intelligent people were just as prone as less intelligent people to believing in obviously absurd superstitions.

'Just as prone'? I would be fascinated to see any evidence beyond the anecdotal for this...

Comment author: B9013C87 27 July 2012 05:35:29PM 3 points [-]

Actually, this kinds of reminds me of Stanovich's Dysrationalia and also of Eliezer's "Outside the laboratory", if only more uncompromising and extreme than those two. Then again, I tend to have a charitable interpretation of what people write.

Comment author: gwern 27 July 2012 05:49:32PM 4 points [-]

The problem is, Stanovich's work (based on his 2010 book which I have) doesn't support the thesis that intelligent people have more false beliefs or biases than stupid people, or just as many; they have fewer in all but a bare handful of carefully chosen biases where they're equal or a little worse.

If one had to summarize his work and the associated work in these terms, one could say that it's all about the question 'why does IQ not correlate at 1.0 with better beliefs but instead 0.5 or lower?'

Comment author: fare 02 August 2012 02:29:06PM *  1 point [-]

No, no, no. The point is: for any fixed set of questions, higher IQ will be positively correlated with believing in better answers. Yet people with higher IQ will develop beliefs about new, bigger and grander questions; and all in all, on their biggest and grandest questions, they fail just as much as lower-IQ people on theirs. Just with more impact. Including more criminal impact when these theories, as they are wont to do, imply the shepherding (and often barbecuing) the mass of their intellectual inferiors.

Comment author: gwern 02 August 2012 04:59:56PM 3 points [-]

Stupid people seem to have no problem believing in answers to the biggest and grandest questions, like 'it's the Jews fault' or 'God loves me'.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 27 July 2012 02:39:41PM 2 points [-]

I'm not sure I share enough of a common definition with the guy about what intelligence is, judging by this post, in order for his statement to even be meaningful to me.

Even so, I suspect that the capacity to effectively rationalize generally exists in roughly direct proportion to the capacity to engage in effective rational thought, so I have to confess that it doesn't immediately come into apparent conflict with my priors using my own definition.