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0 Post author: Delta 01 August 2012 01:06PM

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Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 01 August 2012 02:13:18PM 12 points [-]

You are a gene machine, but you are not merely a gene machine; you are not even 'merely' a gene machine.

Comment author: Delta 01 August 2012 03:35:09PM 3 points [-]

I'm aware of that, but since there is no inherent, conceptual difference between us and animals (the soul or right to rule them that religion says we have) it means we have to decide what it means to be valuable rather than just assuming we are and not thinking about it. How intelligent would an animal or machine have to be to have the same value we place on a human?

Comment author: Emile 01 August 2012 08:22:06PM 10 points [-]

How intelligent would an animal or machine have to be to have the same value we place on a human?

How heavy would a statue need to be for it to be considered as pretty as the Mona Lisa?

Comment author: Larks 01 August 2012 05:55:12PM 2 points [-]

There are plenty of inherant differences between us and (non-human) animals; for example, we have the property of being human. The question is whether or not there are ethically significant differences, which is a completely different question.

Comment author: army1987 01 August 2012 10:29:18PM 2 points [-]

What's the distinction between merely and 'merely'?

Anyway, I'd go further and say that humans are wonderful gene machines.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 02 August 2012 01:43:52PM 1 point [-]

"mere" was the scare-quoted usage in the original post. I wanted to emphasize that even weakening it with scare quotes wasn't enough.

Comment author: Document 02 August 2012 08:17:25PM *  0 points [-]

Delta seems to have edited it from from "merely" to "simply". Not sure why, since they all mean exactly the same thing: roughly "I am using this sentence to claim something unsupported by its literal meaning".

(Rather than "lullaby words", I personally like to think of them as "alarm words".)