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Vladimir_Nesov comments on Russian plan for immortality [link] - Less Wrong
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Thus the world will even closer associate futurism or immortality with crackpots and fiction.
Does he actually come across to you as a crackpot?
Yes, he actually comes across as a crackpot at best, con-artist at worst. Mind uploaded into "hologram body" (whatever that is) by 2045? Claiming this will be a saleable service? Brain transplants within 13 years? Even as science fiction this is at the comic book level.
Am I really the only person in this thread who thinks this reeks of fraud?
"Hologram-like avatar" seems like an attempt to dumb down the concept of virtual reality embodiment for the average person. Note that in Star Trek the term "hologram" is abused in a similar manner.
I don't see how that's any different than claiming that prosthetic arms will be a saleable service, for example.
Over-optimism, to be sure.
What is the specific fraudulent business plan that this smells of?
It's not clear to me that that's a sensible question to respond with. It's certainly not conventionally the case that one is expected to be able to describe a precise fraudulent business plan when one's inbuilt other-people-evaluator flags a proposition as being dodgy as hell. Positing that as being a reasonable expectation strikes me as setting other people up for exploitation.
Focusing on the specifics is a step that I find helps a lot in narrowing down the source of people's discomfort. (I work in tech support.) However the way I phrased that was probably not the best. Are there any specific fraudulent business plans you are aware of in your experience that pattern-match to what this guy is doing? Various famous cons are well documented on wikipedia. I would guess that if this is a fraud it is unlikely to be an original new kind of fraud.
The hologram thing is sort of puzzling and not especially comforting in that respect.
I think he's probably thinking of Utility Fog, but trying to avoid having to introduce new nomenclature. The general public is familiar with "holograms" from Star Trek, which are clearly not anything like actual holograms. This could also be a reference to virtual reality based bodies which would have three dimensional (and thus hologram-like) properties.