Nisan comments on Rationality Quotes August 2012 - Less Wrong

6 Post author: Alejandro1 03 August 2012 03:33PM

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Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 03 August 2012 09:42:06AM 1 point [-]

Context, please?

Comment author: Nisan 03 August 2012 04:40:36PM 3 points [-]

Mithril is described as an alloy with near-miraculous properties, produced in ancient times, which cannot be reproduced nowadays, despite the best efforts of modern metallurgy. The book is a work of fiction.

Comment author: Vaniver 03 August 2012 08:50:33PM 12 points [-]

Alternatively, mithril is aluminum, almost unobtainable in ancient times and thus seen as miraculous. Think about that the next time you crush a soda can.

Comment author: RobinZ 09 August 2012 06:00:09PM 8 points [-]

(belated...)

Incidentally, in many cases modern armor is made of aluminum, because aluminum (being less rigid) can dissipate more energy without failing. A suit of chain mail made of aircraft-grade aluminum would seem downright magical a few centuries ago.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 August 2012 06:43:14PM *  1 point [-]

Aluminum was entirely unobtainable in ancient times, I believe. It fuses with carbon as well as oxygen, so there was no way to refine it. And it would have made terrible armor, being quite a lot softer than steel. It also suffers from fatigue failures much more easily than steel. These are some of the reasons it makes a bad, though cheap, material for bikes.

Comment author: Vaniver 09 August 2012 07:48:10PM 3 points [-]

Pure aluminum can be found without reducing it yourself, but it's very rare. You'd have to pluck it out of the interior of a volcano or the bottom of the sea- and so it seems possible that some could end up in the hands of a medieval smith, but very unlikely.

Comment author: gwern 09 August 2012 09:54:59PM 1 point [-]

Oh, I don't know, one would say the same thing about meteoritic iron, and yet there are well documented uses of it.

(Although apparently the Sword of Attila wasn't really meteoritic and I got that from fiction.)